From owner-agora-officia-@gecko.serc.rmit.edu.au Fri Sep 19 05:43 EDT 1997 Received: from gecko.serc.rmit.edu.au (majordom-@gecko.serc.rmit.edu.au [144.110.168.141]) by cs.brown.edu (8.8.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id FAA26193 for dp-@cs.brown.edu; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 05:43:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom-@localhost) by gecko.serc.rmit.edu.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA14145 for agora-official-list; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 19:19:23 +1000 Received: from wsinfm15.win.tue.nl (wsinfm15.win.tue.nl [131.155.69.168]) by gecko.serc.rmit.edu.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA14142 for agora-officia-@gecko.serc.rmit.edu.au; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 19:19:16 +1000 Received: by wsinfm15.win.tue.nl (8.7.1/1.45) id LAA03866; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 11:21:56 +0200 (MET DST) From: engel-@win.tue.nl (Andre Engels) Message-Id: 199709190921.laa0386-@wsinfm15.win.tue.nl Subject: OFF: CFJ 941 Appeal Assignment To: agora-officia-@gecko.serc.rmit.edu.au (nomic-official list) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 11:21:56 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-agora-officia-@gecko.serc.rmit.edu.au Precedence: bulk Reply-To: agora-discussio-@gecko.serc.rmit.edu.au Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 2684 ====================================================================== CFJ 940 Rule 1596 should be interpreted so that a message purporting to be a Payment Order must, in order to satisfy that Rule's requirements and qualify as a legal Payment Order, explicitly and unambiguously state that the purported Payor is ordered to effect a payment as a consequence of that message, e.g. by stating "Player X is commanded to pay Y", the mere mention of an amount of a Currency, the name or names of the Payor and Payee, or a reference to some Rule or some situation that requires a Payment Order to be executed being insufficient for a message not containing such a command or entreaty to qualify as a Payment Order. ====================================================================== Judge: Chuck Justices: General Chaos (S), Andre (C), elJefe (J) Judgement: TRUE Final Judgement: Eligible: Andre, Antimatter, Blob, Calabresi, Chuck, Crito, Elde, elJefe, General Chaos, Harlequin, Kolja A., Michael, Murphy, Oerjan, Steve, Vanyel, Vir, Vlad, Zefram Not eligible: Caller: Morendil Barred: On hold: Swann Injunction: The Rulekeepor is to annotate Rule 1596 with the statement and list of relevant Rules of this CFJ. ====================================================================== History: Called by Morendil, 08 Sep 1997, 08:55 +0200 Assigned to Chuck, 08 Sep 1997, 11:29 +0200 (MET DST) Judged TRUE by Chuck, 14 Sep 1997, 16:11 CDT Appealed by Oerjan, 16 Sep 1997, 20:15 +0200 (MET DST) Appealed by Crito, 16 Sep 1997, 15:16 EDT Appealed by General Chaos, 16 Sep 1997, 16:00 -0500 Assigned to General Chaos, Andre and elJefe as Justices, as of this message ====================================================================== (Caller's) Arguments: I believe this follows from Rule 1596's definition of a Payment Order as "an order requiring an entity to" perform some action, and that no message not framed as a command is a legal Payment Order. Note that the claim that a particular message _is_ a Payment Order is by that reasoning sufficient to satisfy Rule 1596's requirement. I kindly request that the Judge of the CFJ enjoin the Rulekeepor to annotate R1596 with the above statement and the list of relevant Rules which follows : 1596. ======================================================================\ Decision and Reasoning Judge: I judge this statement to be TRUE. Injunction: I hereby enjoin the Rulekeepor to annotate Rule 1596 with the statement and list of relevant Rules of this CFJ. Reasons and Arguments: I agree with the Caller's arguments.