From nomic-official-owner@teleport.com Fri Jul 14 08:23:35 1995 Return-Path: nomic-official-owner@teleport.com Received: from desiree.teleport.com (desiree.teleport.com [192.108.254.11]) by Shamino.quincy.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA21584 for ; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 08:11:56 -0500 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by desiree.teleport.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) id GAA23104 for nomic-official-outgoing; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 06:07:31 -0700 Received: from wing1.wing.rug.nl (wing1.wing.rug.nl [129.125.21.1]) by desiree.teleport.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id GAA23072 for ; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 06:07:24 -0700 Message-Id: <199507141307.GAA23072@desiree.teleport.com> Received: by wing1.wing.rug.nl (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA08395; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 15:08:13 +0200 From: Andre Engels Subject: OFF: CFJ 788: Judgement To: nomic-official@teleport.com Date: Fri, 14 Jul 95 15:08:12 METDST Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: owner-nomic-official@teleport.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: nomic-discussion@teleport.com Status: RO ====================================================================== ASSIGNMENT CFJ 788 ("The Assessor's Report of July 1 is in error...") ====================================================================== Judge: Ian (declined) Swann Judgement: FALSE Eligible: Andre, Brian, Dave Bowen, Ian, KoJen, Michael, Steve, SugarWater, Swann, TAL, Vanyel, Zefram Caller: Chuck Barred: Kelly, elJefe, JonRock Not Eligible: Chuck (caller) Kelly, elJefe, JonRock (barred) Coren (1005) Pascal (On Hold & 1005) Xanadu (On Hold) Effects: Ian looses 2 Points, 1 of which goes to the CotC, for declining Judgement. Swann gains 5 Points for speedy Judgement ====================================================================== History: Called by Chuck, July 10 1995, 08:21 CST Assigned to Ian, July 11 1995, 10:10 UTC Declined by Ian, July 11 1995, 13:58 -0700 Assigned to Swann, July 12 1995, 07:24 UTC Judged FALSE by Swann, July 14 1995, 06:51 -0400 ====================================================================== Statement: The Assessor's Report of July 1 is in error, in that Chuck has 94 Extra Votes, and TAL has -80 Extra Votes; and the Scorekeepor's Report of July 5 is in error, in that a transfer of at least 189 points from TAL to Chuck was not recorded. ====================================================================== Arguments: These errors are due to two transfers required by the Currency Scam Contest, of 80 EVs and at least 189 points. (The point transfer stated in the Contest regulation calls for 199.5 points to be transferred. 90% of the points necessary for me to win at that time, however, was 189 points. A case can be made that 199.5 points were transferred anyway. Since I do not wish to address this issue here, I merely state "at least 189 points" were transferred. The question of whether these transfers took place hinges on whether or not they were "involuntary" transfers. Player's treasuries may "go negative" due to an involuntary transfer, but not due to a voluntary transfer. So if these transfers were involuntary, they took place; if they were not, they did not. Rule 1472 states, in part, Transfers which are not voluntary transfers ("involuntary" transfers) may only be made as specifically required by the Rules. These transfers were clearly not voluntary transfers, as they do not meet the requirements in the first paragraph of Rule 1472 (i.e. they attempted to transfer more points and EVs than TAL had). Thus, either they are involuntary transfers or they were not transfers at all. I would like to address three objections which have been raised to the proposition that the transfers were involuntary. 1. It has been alleged that the transfers were not required by the Rules. This is clearly not so; Rule 1446 requires Contestants to obey Contest Regulations; thus, a transfer required by Contest Regulations is also required by Rule 1446. Contest Regulations have no authority in and of themselves; they have only that authority granted them by the Rules. In fact, anything which is required of Players *must* be required by the Rules, as nothing else has, in and of itself, the legal authority to require obedience. 2. It has been alleged that any transfers taking place directly due to Player actions are voluntary transfers. There is nothing in Rule 1472 to suggest this. True, 1472 does define voluntary transfers as taking place upon the action of a Player, but there is *nothing* to suggest that all point changes directly due to Players' actions must be voluntary. 3. It has been alleged that the transfers are required by the Rules, but not *specifically* required by the Rules. The American Heritage Dictionary, 2nd ed., lists "specifically" as an adverb form of "specific." "Specific" is defined as "explicitly set forth; definite." The second of these is easier to demonstrate: the transfers required are very definite, being 80 Extra Votes and 199.5 points from TAL to me. Are they explicitly set forth? Yes, Rule 1446 explicitly states that Contestants must follow contest Regulations. Thus, I conclude that the transfers in question are specifically required by the Rules and are thus involuntary transfers. ====================================================================== Decision & Reasoning Judge: Judgement: FALSE Aguments: I'll address the Caller's points in order: # 1. It has been alleged that the transfers were not required by # the Rules. This is clearly not so; Rule 1446 requires Contestants # to obey Contest Regulations; thus, a transfer required by # Contest Regulations is also required by Rule 1446. Contest # Regulations have no authority in and of themselves; they # have only that authority granted them by the Rules. In fact, # anything which is required of Players *must* be required by # the Rules, as nothing else has, in and of itself, the legal # authority to require obedience. It is true that any Contest Regulation has force only through the authority of 1446, and thus falls on the precedence scale along with 1446. (Note this fact.) # 2. It has been alleged that any transfers taking place directly # due to Player actions are voluntary transfers. There is nothing # in Rule 1472 to suggest this. True, 1472 does define voluntary # transfers as taking place upon the action of a Player, but there # is *nothing* to suggest that all point changes directly due to # Players' actions must be voluntary. This is true. There is nothing in 1472 to suggest that a Player cannot trigger an involuntary transfer by an act of free will. I willingly took on the office of Herald, does that make my salary a voluntary transfer? # 3. It has been alleged that the transfers are required by the Rules, # but not *specifically* required by the Rules. The American Heritage # Dictionary, 2nd ed., lists "specifically" as an adverb form of # "specific." "Specific" is defined as "explicitly set forth; definite." # The second of these is easier to demonstrate: the transfers required # are very definite, being 80 Extra Votes and 199.5 points from # TAL to me. Are they explicitly set forth? Yes, Rule 1446 # explicitly states that Contestants must follow contest Regulations. This, in fact, was my first argument against this scam. My reading at first led me to the conclusion that this language-- "specifically required by the Rules" -- meant that this only applied to clauses within *Rules* that award/penalize some explicit amount of currency. However, the Caller's argument sways me a considerable distance because the only rational way to adjudicate any Contest Regulation's relationship to the Ruleset as a whole, is through its enabling legislation, 1446. The Contest Regulations can be considered, in effect, an invisible part of Rule 1446, only applicable to the Contestmaster and Contestant. I am swayed the rest of the way by the following fact: Rule 1446 takes precedence over 1472! In a bizarre oversight, 1472 does not claim precedence over any other Rule, Ordinance, anything, that claims to proscribe a Currency transfer. In effect, it does not matter what the language of 1472 has to say about voluntary and involuntary transfers, negative and non-negative totals-- it defers to the Contest Rule! Those who are frightened by the prospect may cling to the following clause in 1446: "All Contestants, and the Contestmaster, are bound by the Regulations except where these conflict with the Rules." This doesn't solve the problem because the Regulation: "4. Within 72 hours after becoming a Contestant, TAL shall transfer 80 Extra Votes and 199.5 Points from TAL's Treasury to Chuck's Treasury. TAL shall be responsible for reporting these transfers to the appropriate Officers. After these transfers take place and the transfers are reported, this Contest shall be dissolved. A Contestant ceases to be a Contestant when this Contest is dissolved." Doesn't conflict with the Rules. Rule 1446 absolves Contestant and Contestmaster from following Regulations that Conflict with the Rules-- it does not absolve them from being forced to act in a way that conflict with the Rules. If there was a conflict, it was in TAL's attempt to comply, *not* in the Regulation. And, as stated beforehand, that conflict (if it existed at all) is resolved by 1472's deference to 1446. The only remaining consideration is who was legally responsible to report TAL's transfer. TAL was the Player who did the Reporting, but according to 1446: "[The Contestmaster] reports all currency transfers taking place under the Regulations, is the Executor of the Contest Fund, and maintains the Regulations." In applying my interpretation of the contest Regs as extension of 1446, we have a situation where the Rule explicitly contradicts itself, saying in one place that Chuck (who did no reporting) should report the transfer, and in another that TAL (who did report) should be the Player to Report the transfer. However, one clause is within the Rule itself and the other in its subordinate Regulations. Since there is a conflict, I must give the actual Rule greater weight than the Regulations it enables. Rule 1446 MUST take precedence over the Regulations it empowers, or else it could not empower them at all-- it would have no power to bind them or define their characteristics. It was Chuck's duty, as Contestmaster, to report the transfer, despite the language of Reg 5. The transfer has not yet been reported. Does that invalidate the transfer? As to *that* question, rule 1472 claims to cancel any unreported Currency transfer after the passage of a week. But, as I've pointed out, almost every Rule takes precedence over 1472, including 1446. 1472 doesn't have the power to invalidate TAL's transfer no matter how long it takes Chuck to report it. 1472 also claims that a transfer cannot occur before it is reported. This explicitly conflicts with the language of Reg 5, which specifies: "Within 72 hours after becoming a Contestant." Since 1446 takes precedence, the transfer had to have taken place at that time, no mater who did or did not report it. So even if Chuck did not report the transfer, because of the wording of Reg 5, the transfer occurred. Presumably this happened 72 hours after TAL became a Contestant. This would be sometime during the evening of Sun, July 2. However, the documents alleged to be in error were dated the day before this transfer occurred, so I must rule the specific Statement FALSE. ====================================================================== Evidence: 1. Rule 1446 2. Rule 1472 3. Currency Scam Contest Regulations 4. TAL's message of June 29 reporting the transfers 5. Assessor's Report of July 1 6. Scorekeepor's report of July 5 [Some of the header information from 4, 5, and 6 has been deleted in the interest of bandwidth. The entire headers can be supplied upon request. ======1. Rule 1466 Rule 1466/0 (Mutable, MI=1) Currency Directives There is a type of Directive, called a Currency Directive. These Directives have an Adoption Index of 2. If adopted, they have the effect of specifying the Currency holdings contained in an Entity or Entities' Treasury or Treasuries. They may have no other effects. Annotation according to Rule 789 and CFJ 779: Rule 1466 should be interpreted such that a Proposal containing one or more Currency Directives, and no other Directives or Rule Changes which would require the Proposal to have a Adoption Index greater than 1, has a Adoption Index of 1. Relevant Rules: 594, 993, 1466 History: Created by Proposal 1596, Jun. 2 1995 ======2. Rule 1472 Rule 1472/0 (Mutable, MI=1) Transfer of Currencies The owner of a given Treasury may, at any time, transfer any or all of the units of Currency within that Treasury to any other Treasury, so long as this transfer is permitted by the Rules. Such a transfer is known as a "voluntary" transfer. Voluntary transfers are restricted to positive quantities, and in no case may more of a given Currency be transferred from a Treasury than that Treasury possessed prior to the transfer. The Recordkeepor of a Currency must be notified as soon as possible by the owner of the Treasury from which a voluntary transfer is made. If a voluntary transfer is not reported to the Recordkeepor within seven days, it is cancelled and does not take place. Transfers which are not voluntary transfers ("involuntary" transfers) may only be made as specifically required by the Rules. Such transfers must be reported to the Recordkeepors of the Currencies involved as soon as possible thereafter, by a Player specified by the Rules. Involuntary transfers may be of any amount (limited only by MUQ rounding), and may involve amounts greater than the amount in the Treasury from which the transfer originates. If an involuntary transfer is not reported to the Recordkeepor within seven days, or there is no Rule which requires a Player to report the involuntary transfer, the transfer is cancelled and does not take place. All transfers take effect no sooner than the time the Recordkeepor of the Currency is informed of the transfer. History: Created by Proposal 1601, Jun. 19 1995 ======3. Currency Scam Contest Regulations 1. The Contestmaster is Chuck. The Contestmaster may not be changed. 2. Only TAL is permitted to become a Contestant. The Entry Fee is 1 Reform Group Coin. 3. Any Currencies in the Currency Scam Contest Fund at any time shall be transferred to the Contestmaster. 4. Within 72 hours after becoming a Contestant, TAL shall transfer 80 Extra Votes and 199.5 Points from TAL's Treasury to Chuck's Treasury. TAL shall be responsible for reporting these transfers to the appropriate Officers. After these transfers take place and the transfers are reported, this Contest shall be dissolved. A Contestant ceases to be a Contestant when this Contest is dissolved. 5. These regulations shall not be changed. ======4. TAL's message of June 29 reporting the transfers Date: Thu, 29 Jun 95 19:15:45 SET From: KUNNE@CERNVM.cern.ch Subject: BUS: More transfers To: nomic-business@teleport.com The Currency Scam Contest Regulations require me to transfer 80 Extra Votes and 199.5 Points from my Treasury to Chuck's Treasury. (I should have read the small-print first, I guess :-) However, as I emptied carefully my Treasury just a minute ago, one might think that there is a problem. Luckily the Rule 1472 ("Transfer of Currencies") provides a solution. Note that both these transfers are "involuntary" transfers in the sense of Rule 1472. Both are specifically required by the Contest Rule, which obliges me to obey the Regulations. Note also, that "involuntary" transfers may result in a Player ending up with a negative number of a certain Currency. Therefore: Mir. Assessor, please take note that I transfer 80 Extra Votes from my Treasury to Chuck's Treasury, an "involuntary" transfer required by the Currency Scam Contest Regulations. Mir. Scorekeepor, please take note that I transfer 199.5 Points from my Treasury to Chuck's Treasury, an "involuntary" transfer required by the Currency Scam Contest Regulations. As these transfers have now been reported, the CS Contest shall be dissolved and I cease to be a Contestant. Who can guess, what the next step will be in this Scam? TAL ======5. Assessor's report of July 1 Date: Sat, 1 Jul 1995 14:30:02 -0400 From: jlc@camex.Camex.COM (Jeff Caruso) To: nomic-official@teleport.com Subject: OFF: Result of Proposal 1607 Assessor's Report, 1 July 1995 08:43:27, for Proposal 1607 ============================================================================= Num. Proposer Title RESULT 1607 TAL Ambassador and Mark Cleanup FAILS 4-6 (1) Note: the quorum for 1607 was 9. ============================================================================= Result of Proposal 1607 1 6 0 1 Chuck A Dave B A elJefe F Ian - Kelly A KoJen A Steve F TAL 2F Vanyel A Zefram A F-A -2 FOR 4 AGAINST 6 ABSTAIN 1 A.I. 1 PASSES? N *** Scorekeepor, please note: Score changes resulting from the above: Chuck +1 (voting) Dave B +1 (voting) elJefe +1 (voting) Ian +1 (voting) Kelly +1 (voting) KoJen +1 (voting) Steve +1 (voting) TAL +1 (voting) + -2 (F-A) [Total: -1] Vanyel +1 (voting) Zefram +1 (voting) ============================================================================= Extra Votes: Official Report of the Recordkeepor ============================================================================= Name 6/1 6/6 6/12 6/19 7/1 ========== === === === === === Andre 5 5 5 4 4 Blob 3 3 3 3 -- (deregistered) Dave Bowen 3 3 3 3 3 Chuck 10 10 15 14 14 Coren 12 12 12 12 12 elJefe 0 0 0 0 5 Ian 0 0 0 0 0 JonRock 3 3 3 3 3 Kelly 11 11 11 18 18 KoJen 6 6 6 6 6 Michael 40 40 40 40 36 Pascal 3 3 3 3 3 Steve 11 11 11 11 11 Swann 14 14 14 14 14 TAL 6 6 1 1 0 Vanyel 4 3 3 2 2 Xanadu 2 2 2 2 2 TOTAL 133 132 132 136 133 Number of Players currently Registered: 18 Threshhold for EV creation : 90 ============================================================================= Votes cast: 6/23: TAL 1 (Proposal 1607) ============================================================================= Transfers since 6/19: 6/29: TAL to Chuck: 1 (impossible, already cast) 6/29: TAL to Chuck: 80 (impossible by Rule 1472) 6/30: Michael to elJefe: 4 Special note: TAL's 80 EV transfer to Chuck is invalidated as in excess of his EV holdings, under Rule 1472. TAL's claim that the transfer is "involuntary" is rejected, since Rule 1466's requirement that TAL obey the Contest Regs is phrased generally and not "specifically" with respect to this kind of transfer. An "involuntary" transfer must be an automatic one which takes place without any action on the player's part, and there is no Rule enabling Contest Regulations to cause such a transfer (except as detailed in Rule 1466, when a contest dissolves). ============================================================================= ============================================================================= Text of Adopted Proposals: None. ============================================================================= - elJefe, Assessor of Agora Nomic ****************************************************************** Dr. Jeffrey L. Caruso Information International ======6. Scorekeepor's report of July 5 Scores as of 22 Jun 1995 at 15:14 GMT: Andre +30.0 (+ 191.7 = 221.7) 0 blots Vanyel +19.0 (+ 202.7 = 221.7) 0 blots Kelly +18.0 (+ 235.3 = 253.3) 0 blots Dave Bowen +16.0 (+ 205.7 = 221.7) 0 blots Troublemaker at Large +16.0 (+ 237.3 = 253.3) 0 blots Steve +11.0 (+ 210.7 = 221.7) 1 blots elJefe +11.0 (+ 210.7 = 221.7) 0 blots Michael +9.0 (+ 212.7 = 221.7) 0 blots Swann +9.0 (+ 181.0 = 190.0) 0 blots Zefram +6.9 (+ 183.1 = 190.0) 0 blots JonRock +6.0 (+ 184.0 = 190.0) 0 blots KoJen +6.0 (+ 279.0 = 285.0) 0 blots Ian +5.0 (+ 185.0 = 190.0) 0 blots Blob +3.0 (+ 187.0 = 190.0) 0 blots SugarWater +0.9 (+ 189.1 = 190.0) 0 blots Chuck +0.0 (+ 221.7 = 221.7) 0 blots Coren +0.0 (+ 190.0 = 190.0) 0 blots Jason +0.0 (+ 190.0 = 190.0) 0 blots Xanadu +0.0 (+ 190.0 = 190.0) 0 blots Reform +2851.8 X +803.3 Sub-Nomic Contest Fund +30.0 Keep Your Money Contest Fund +28.0 GSHN Contest Fund +21.0 Coren's EV Sale Contest Fund +0.0 Reverse Auction Contest Fund +0.0 The Nomic Bank -3900.9 ** TOTAL ** +0.0 23 Jun 1995 at 08:10 GMT Andre OFF: Final Judgement CFJ 771 Andre +5.0 = +35.0 (+ 186.7 = 221.7) 0 blots The Nomic Bank -8.0 = -3908.9 Ian -5.0 = +0.0 (+ 190.0 = 190.0) 0 blots Kelly +5.0 = +23.0 (+ 230.3 = 253.3) 0 blots Troublemaker at Large +3.0 = +19.0 (+ 234.3 = 253.3) 0 blots 23 Jun 1995 at 08:52 GMT Andre OFF: Judgement CFJ 775 The Nomic Bank -3.0 = -3911.9 Zefram +3.0 = +9.9 (+ 180.1 = 190.0) 0 blots 23 Jun 1995 at 12:34 GMT Andre OFF: Judgement CFJ 779 The Nomic Bank -5.0 = -3916.9 Michael +5.0 = +14.0 (+ 207.7 = 221.7) 0 blots 23 Jun 1995 at 12:35 GMT Andre OFF: Judgement CFJ 780 The Nomic Bank -5.0 = -3921.9 Zefram +5.0 = +14.9 (+ 175.1 = 190.0) 0 blots 26 Jun 1995 at 00:00 GMT Salaries * Player Kelly receives Ambassador salary. * Player Vanyel receives Archivist salary. * Player Vanyel receives Assistant salary. * Player elJefe receives Assessor salary. * Player Andre receives Banker salary. * Player Andre receives Clerk of the Courts salary. * Player Vanyel receives Distributor salary. * Player Swann receives Herald salary. * Player Blob receives Notary salary. * Player KoJen receives Promotor salary. * Player KoJen receives Registrar salary. * Player Chuck receives Rulekeepor salary. * Player Kelly receives Scorekeepor salary. * Player Ian receives Tabulator salary. Andre +10.0 = +45.0 (+ 176.7 = 221.7) 0 blots The Nomic Bank -54.0 = -3975.9 Blob +3.0 = +6.0 (+ 184.0 = 190.0) 0 blots Chuck +5.0 = +5.0 (+ 216.7 = 221.7) 0 blots elJefe +5.0 = +16.0 (+ 205.7 = 221.7) 0 blots Ian +4.0 = +4.0 (+ 186.0 = 190.0) 0 blots Kelly +7.0 = +30.0 (+ 223.3 = 253.3) 0 blots KoJen +6.0 = +12.0 (+ 273.0 = 285.0) 0 blots Swann +3.0 = +12.0 (+ 178.0 = 190.0) 0 blots Vanyel +11.0 = +30.0 (+ 191.7 = 221.7) 0 blots 26 Jun 1995 at 09:34 GMT Andre OFF: Judgement CFJ 782 The Nomic Bank -5.0 = -3980.9 Dave Bowen +5.0 = +21.0 (+ 200.7 = 221.7) 0 blots 26 Jun 1995 at 09:39 GMT Andre OFF: Judgement CFJ 776 The Nomic Bank -5.0 = -3985.9 Vanyel +5.0 = +35.0 (+ 186.7 = 221.7) 0 blots 26 Jun 1995 at 11:00 GMT Andre OFF: Judgement CFJ 777 Andre -10.0 = +35.0 (+ 186.7 = 221.7) 0 blots The Nomic Bank +7.0 = -3978.9 Steve +3.0 = +14.0 (+ 207.7 = 221.7) 1 blots 26 Jun 1995 at 15:46 GMT KoJen OFF: Re: Deregister Inactive Player Player Blob (BLOB) leaves Office Notary becomes vacant The Nomic Bank +6.0 = -3972.9 Blob -6.0 = +0.0 27 Jun 1995 at 04:15 GMT Steve BUS: Transfer of Justiciarship Player elJefe becomes Justiciar 27 Jun 1995 at 08:13 GMT Andre OFF: Judgement CFJ 783 The Nomic Bank -3.0 = -3975.9 Vanyel +3.0 = +38.0 (+ 172.0 = 210.0) 0 blots 27 Jun 1995 at 10:57 GMT Swann BUS: Transfer Points--->Coins Reform +12.0 = +2863.8 Swann -12.0 = +0.0 (+ 180.0 = 180.0) 0 blots 28 Jun 1995 at 04:23 GMT Chuck BUS: Point Transfer Chuck -5.0 = +0.0 (+ 210.0 = 210.0) 0 blots Reform +5.0 = +2868.8 28 Jun 1995 at 08:34 GMT Andre OFF: Judgement CFJ 778 The Nomic Bank -3.0 = -3978.9 Xanadu +3.0 = +3.0 (+ 177.0 = 180.0) 0 blots 28 Jun 1995 at 09:22 GMT Andre OFF: Judgement CFJ 784 The Nomic Bank -3.0 = -3981.9 elJefe +3.0 = +19.0 (+ 191.0 = 210.0) 0 blots 28 Jun 1995 at 09:26 GMT Andre OFF: Judgement CFJ 770 The Nomic Bank -3.0 = -3984.9 Chuck +3.0 = +3.0 (+ 207.0 = 210.0) 0 blots 28 Jun 1995 at 20:42 GMT Chuck BUS: Re: OFF: Scorekeepor's Report Chuck -3.0 = +0.0 (+ 210.0 = 210.0) 0 blots Reform +3.0 = +2871.8 29 Jun 1995 at 08:07 GMT Troublemaker at Large BUS: Transfer Reform +19.0 = +2890.8 Troublemaker at Large -19.0 = +0.0 (+ 240.0 = 240.0) 0 blots 29 Jun 1995 at 15:03 GMT Chuck BUS: Currency Scam Contest New Contest Fund: Currency Scam (CSCM) 29 Jun 1995 at 17:15 GMT (n/a) BUS: More transfers *** disallowed: TAL -> CHUC, 199.5 points *** 0 points actually transferred 29 Jun 1995 at 19:12 GMT KoJen OFF: new Group New Group formed: Clubhouse (CLUB) 30 Jun 1995 at 08:40 GMT Steve BUS: Transfer of Viziership, and Going on Hold Player Steve goes on hold 30 Jun 1995 at 14:52 GMT (n/a) OFF: re-assignment CFJ 781 The Nomic Bank +10.0 = -3974.9 Michael -10.0 = +4.0 (+ 206.0 = 210.0) 0 blots 30 Jun 1995 at 16:57 GMT elJefe BUS: Point Transfer elJefe -19.0 = +0.0 (+ 210.0 = 210.0) 0 blots Reform +19.0 = +2909.8 30 Jun 1995 at 21:17 GMT elJefe Score changes from disowned proposals The Nomic Bank +5.0 = -3969.9 JonRock -5.0 = +1.0 (+ 179.0 = 180.0) 0 blots 30 Jun 1995 at 21:20 GMT elJefe Score changes from disowned proposals The Nomic Bank +5.0 = -3964.9 JonRock -5.0 = -4.0 (+ 184.0 = 180.0) 0 blots 30 Jun 1995 at 22:50 GMT Xanadu BUS: Re: BUS: Reassignment of Appeal of CFJ 784 Player Xanadu goes on hold 01 Jul 1995 at 02:00 GMT JonRock BUS: New Contest New Contest Fund: Here's What You SHOULD Have Done (HWYS) 01 Jul 1995 at 18:30 GMT elJefe OFF: Result of Proposal 1607 The Nomic Bank -8.0 = -3972.9 Dave Bowen +1.0 = +22.0 (+ 188.0 = 210.0) 0 blots Chuck +1.0 = +1.0 (+ 209.0 = 210.0) 0 blots elJefe +1.0 = +1.0 (+ 209.0 = 210.0) 0 blots Ian +1.0 = +5.0 (+ 175.0 = 180.0) 0 blots Kelly +1.0 = +31.0 (+ 209.0 = 240.0) 0 blots KoJen +1.0 = +13.0 (+ 257.0 = 270.0) 0 blots Steve +1.0 = +15.0 (+ 195.0 = 210.0) 1 blots Troublemaker at Large -1.0 = -1.0 (+ 241.0 = 240.0) 0 blots Vanyel +1.0 = +39.0 (+ 171.0 = 210.0) 0 blots Zefram +1.0 = +15.9 (+ 164.1 = 180.0) 0 blots 01 Jul 1995 at 21:25 GMT Coren BUS: Off Hold Player Coren goes off hold 03 Jul 1995 at 00:00 GMT Salaries * Player Kelly receives Ambassador salary. * Player Vanyel receives Archivist salary. * Player Vanyel receives Assistant salary. * Player elJefe receives Assessor salary. * Player Andre receives Banker salary. * Player Andre receives Clerk of the Courts salary. * Player Vanyel receives Distributor salary. * Player Swann receives Herald salary. * Player Kelly receives Notary salary. * Player KoJen receives Promotor salary. * Player KoJen receives Registrar salary. * Player Chuck receives Rulekeepor salary. * Player Kelly receives Scorekeepor salary. * Player Ian receives Tabulator salary. Andre +10.0 = +45.0 (+ 165.0 = 210.0) 0 blots The Nomic Bank -54.0 = -4026.9 Chuck +5.0 = +6.0 (+ 204.0 = 210.0) 0 blots elJefe +5.0 = +6.0 (+ 204.0 = 210.0) 0 blots Ian +4.0 = +9.0 (+ 171.0 = 180.0) 0 blots Kelly +10.0 = +41.0 (+ 199.0 = 240.0) 0 blots KoJen +6.0 = +19.0 (+ 251.0 = 270.0) 0 blots Swann +3.0 = +3.0 (+ 177.0 = 180.0) 0 blots Vanyel +11.0 = +50.0 (+ 160.0 = 210.0) 0 blots 03 Jul 1995 at 02:35 GMT Steve BUS: point transfer Reform +15.0 = +2924.8 Steve -15.0 = +0.0 (+ 210.0 = 210.0) 1 blots 03 Jul 1995 at 08:07 GMT Andre OFF: Final Judgement CFJ 780 The Nomic Bank -8.0 = -4034.9 elJefe +5.0 = +11.0 (+ 199.0 = 210.0) 0 blots Kelly +3.0 = +44.0 (+ 196.0 = 240.0) 0 blots Vanyel +5.0 = +55.0 (+ 155.0 = 210.0) 0 blots Zefram -5.0 = +10.9 (+ 169.1 = 180.0) 0 blots 03 Jul 1995 at 08:16 GMT Andre OFF: Final Judgement CFJ 782 Andre +3.0 = +48.0 (+ 162.0 = 210.0) 0 blots The Nomic Bank -11.0 = -4045.9 elJefe +5.0 = +16.0 (+ 194.0 = 210.0) 0 blots Kelly +3.0 = +47.0 (+ 193.0 = 240.0) 0 blots 04 Jul 1995 at 10:10 GMT Andre OFF: CFJ 776: Final Judgement Andre +3.0 = +51.0 (+ 159.0 = 210.0) 0 blots The Nomic Bank -11.0 = -4056.9 elJefe +5.0 = +21.0 (+ 189.0 = 210.0) 0 blots Kelly +3.0 = +50.0 (+ 190.0 = 240.0) 0 blots 04 Jul 1995 at 10:41 GMT Andre OFF: CFJ 786: Judgement The Nomic Bank -5.0 = -4061.9 Troublemaker at Large +5.0 = +4.0 (+ 236.0 = 240.0) 0 blots 05 Jul 1995 at 23:30 GMT end of score file Scores as of 05 Jul 1995 at 23:30 GMT: Vanyel +55.0 (+ 155.0 = 210.0) 0 blots Andre +51.0 (+ 159.0 = 210.0) 0 blots Kelly +50.0 (+ 190.0 = 240.0) 0 blots Dave Bowen +22.0 (+ 188.0 = 210.0) 0 blots elJefe +21.0 (+ 189.0 = 210.0) 0 blots KoJen +19.0 (+ 251.0 = 270.0) 0 blots Zefram +10.9 (+ 169.1 = 180.0) 0 blots Ian +9.0 (+ 171.0 = 180.0) 0 blots Chuck +6.0 (+ 204.0 = 210.0) 0 blots Michael +4.0 (+ 206.0 = 210.0) 0 blots Troublemaker at Large +4.0 (+ 236.0 = 240.0) 0 blots Swann +3.0 (+ 177.0 = 180.0) 0 blots Xanadu +3.0 (+ 177.0 = 180.0) 0 blots SugarWater +0.9 (+ 179.1 = 180.0) 0 blots Coren +0.0 (+ 180.0 = 180.0) 0 blots Jason +0.0 (+ 180.0 = 180.0) 0 blots Steve +0.0 (+ 210.0 = 210.0) 1 blots JonRock -4.0 (+ 184.0 = 180.0) 0 blots Reform +2924.8 X +803.3 Sub-Nomic Contest Fund +30.0 Keep Your Money Contest Fund +28.0 GSHN Contest Fund +21.0 Clubhouse +0.0 Coren's EV Sale Contest Fund +0.0 Currency Scam Contest Fund +0.0 Here's What You SHOULD Have Done Contest Fund +0.0 Reverse Auction Contest Fund +0.0 The Nomic Bank -4061.9 ** TOTAL ** +0.0 -- kelly martin Harm to the market for copyrighted work or its derivatives which is caused by a devastating critique which diminishes sales by convincing the public that the original work is of poor quality is not within the scope of copyright protection. -- from the ruling of the court in "New Era Publications Intl. ApS v Carol Publishing Group" (904 F.2d 161 (2nd Cir. 1990)) ======End of evidence. ====================================================================== Evidence added by Judge: Rule 1446/2 (Mutable, MI=1) Contests A contest is a subgame of Agora Nomic, having its own Name, Entry Fee, Regulations, Contestmaster, and Contest Fund. It is created when a Player posts to the Public Forum an announcement of the contest, including the Name and Regulations. Participants in the subgame are called Contestants of that contest. The player making the post becomes the Contestmaster. The Contestmaster for a given Contest is a Player who has responsibility for administering the subgame. He reports all currency transfers taking place under the Regulations, is the Executor of the Contest Fund, and maintains the Regulations. The Contest Fund is a Treasury, as provided for in other Rules. The owner of this Treasury is the Contest, and the Executor of this Treasury is, at all times, the Contestmaster of the Contest. The Regulations specify the operation of the Contest. All Contestants, and the Contestmaster, are bound by the Regulations except where these conflict with the Rules. They may also specify: 1. how a Contestmaster is replaced. However, no person may become Contestmaster without eir consent; 2. how the Currencies in the Contest Fund shall be spent, so long as this does not conflict with the Rules; 3. the amount of the Entry Fee for the Contest, in the form of units one or more Currency; 4. additional restrictions on Players to become Contestants, and conditions under which Contestants cease to be Contestants; 5. how the Regulations may be changed. If they do not so specify, the Regulations may not be changed. Whenever the Regulations are changed, the Contestmaster must post the new Regulations to the Public Forum, and no such change is effective until it is so posted; and 6. how the Contest may be dissolved. A Player becomes a Contestant by notifying the Contestmaster and paying the prescribed Entry Fee to the Contest Fund. A Contestant may quit a Contest at any time by so notifying the Contestmaster, or by so posting to the Public Forum. A Contestmaster may resign at any time by posting a message to that effect to the Public Forum, at which time e ceases to be Contestmaster. A contest is dissolved when there is no Contestmaster and no provision for replacing em, or upon unanimous agreement of the Contestmaster and all Contestants, or as otherwise provided in the rules, or in the Regulations. When this happens the Contest Fund is distributed as provided in the Regulations; if no provision is made the Fund is divided equally between the Contestants. If the Contest Regulations require a transfer to be made, but the Contest Fund has insufficient currencies to permit that transfer to be made, sufficient currencies to cover the transfer shall be involuntarily transferred from the Contestmaster's Treasury to the Contest Fund. The Contestmaster shall report this transfer to the appropriate Recordkeepors. No Blots shall be assigned by this Rule. History: Created by Proposal 1509, Mar. 24 1995 Amended(1) by Proposal 1574, Apr. 28 1995 Amended(2) by Proposal 1601, Jun. 19 1995 ---------------------------------------- Rule 1030/2 (Mutable, MI=1) Precedence Between Rules with Equal MI's If two or more Rules with the same Mutability Indices conflict with one another, then the Rule with the lower Number takes precedence. If at least one of the Rules in conflict explicitly says of itself that it defers to another Rule (or type of Rule) or takes precedence over another Rule (or type of Rule), then such provisions shall supercede the numerical method for determining precedence. If two or more Rules claim to take precedence over one another or defer to one another, then the numerical method again governs. History: ... Amended(1) by Proposal 1527, Mar. 24 1995 Amended(2) by Proposal 1603, Jun. 19 1995 ---------------------------------------- Rule 217/0 (Mutable, MI=1) Judgements Must Accord with the Rules All Judgements must be in accordance with the Rules; however, if the Rules are silent, inconsistent, or unclear on the Statement to be Judged, then the Judge shall consider Game Custom and the Spirit of the Game before applying other standards. History: Initial Mutable Rule 217, Jun. 30 1993 ---------------------------------------- Evidence from Assessor: From: jlc@camex.Camex.COM (Jeff Caruso) Message-Id: <9507131556.AA05985@zeus.Camex.COM> To: gb485@cleveland.freenet.edu Subject: More evidence in CFJ 788 (in case Ian did not forward this, I'm providing it to you) As Kelly suggested, I have examined my records for a notification from Chuck as to a transfer of EV's under the Regulations of the Currency Scam Contest. Chuck did not report such a transfer. Chuck did report a Reform Coin transfer to me in my role as Reform Vizier. This has nothing to do with EV's, but I'm including it so that you can see for yourself. He also made a COE after the Assessor's Report of July 1. After careful examination, I find that his COE also does not contain a report of a transfer, but simply claims that the reported number of EV's for Chuck and TAL is wrong. - elJefe ****************************************************************** Dr. Jeffrey L. Caruso Information International ======================================================================= Message from Chuck: Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 12:58:21 -0500 To: nomic-business@teleport.com From: ccarroll@students.wisc.edu (Charles E. Carroll) Subject: Re: BUS: Transfers Sender: owner-nomic-business@teleport.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: nomic-discussion@teleport.com >This leaves my Treasury empty, but for one Reform Coin. >I transfer that Coin to the Currency Scam >Contest Fund, as my Entry Fee. I become a Contestant of that >Contest. H. Reform Group Vizier, please note: according to the Currency Scam Contest Regulations, the Reform Group Coin in the C.S. Contest Fund is transferred to me. Chuck ======================================================================= Excerpt, Rule 1446: ... The Contestmaster for a given Contest is a Player who has responsibility for administering the subgame. He reports all currency transfers taking place under the Regulations, is the Executor of the Contest Fund, and maintains the Regulations. ... ======================================================================= Excerpt, Rule 1472: ... If an involuntary transfer is not reported to the Recordkeepor within seven days, or there is no Rule which requires a Player to report the involuntary transfer, the transfer is cancelled and does not take place. ... ======================================================================= Chuck's COE to the Assessor: Date: Sat, 1 Jul 95 14:13:33 CST From: "Charles E. Carroll" Message-Id: <51223.ccarroll@students.wisc.edu> To: nomic-business@teleport.com Subject: BUS: ASSESSOR: COE Sender: owner-nomic-business@teleport.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: nomic-discussion@teleport.com >============================================================================= >Extra Votes: Official Report of the Recordkeepor >============================================================================= > >Name 6/1 6/6 6/12 6/19 7/1 >========== === === === === === >Andre 5 5 5 4 4 >Blob 3 3 3 3 -- (deregistered) >Dave Bowen 3 3 3 3 3 >Chuck 10 10 15 14 14 >Coren 12 12 12 12 12 >elJefe 0 0 0 0 5 >Ian 0 0 0 0 0 >JonRock 3 3 3 3 3 >Kelly 11 11 11 18 18 >KoJen 6 6 6 6 6 >Michael 40 40 40 40 36 >Pascal 3 3 3 3 3 >Steve 11 11 11 11 11 >Swann 14 14 14 14 14 >TAL 6 6 1 1 0 >Vanyel 4 3 3 2 2 >Xanadu 2 2 2 2 2 > >TOTAL 133 132 132 136 133 > >Number of Players currently Registered: 18 >Threshhold for EV creation : 90 > I claim that this Assessor's report is in error, in that Chuck should have 94 Extra Votes and TAL should have -80. First, I believe the transfer *is* specifically required by the Rules. After all, a 79-EV transfer would not have satisfied Rule 1446. How much more specific can you get? The allegation that the transfer was involuntary because it required action of TAL is also invalid. There is nothing in Rule 1472 that states or implies that a transfer dependent on the action of a Player is automatically voluntary. (True, it describes voluntary transfers, which are dependent on the action of a Player, but it does *not* say that all transfers dependent on a Player's action are voluntary.) If we were to follow this argument, the two point loss when declining to serve as Judgement would also be a voluntary transfer, as it takes place only upon the action of the Player! Chuck Andre