From - Mon Jan 15 11:22:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: from gecko.serc.rmit.edu.au ([131.170.42.16]) by osgood.mail.mindspring.net (Mindspring Mail Service) with ESMTP id t657fk.10s.30ahi43 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 01:51:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by gecko.serc.rmit.edu.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA11081 for agora-official-list; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 06:48:42 GMT Received: from fw.serc.rmit.edu.au (fw-in.serc.rmit.edu.au [131.170.42.1]) by gecko.serc.rmit.edu.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA11078 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 06:48:40 GMT Received: (from mail@localhost) by fw.serc.rmit.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.1) id RAA31396 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 17:56:04 +1100 (EST) Received: from rfx-64-6-196-132.users.reflexcom.com(64.6.196.132) by fw.serc.rmit.edu.au via smap (V2.1) id xma031394; Mon, 15 Jan 01 17:55:53 +1100 Received: (from wesc@localhost) by fozzie.antitribu.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA16855 for agora-official@gecko.serc.rmit.edu.au; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 23:27:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wesc) From: Wes Contreras Message-Id: <200101150727.XAA16855@fozzie.antitribu.com> Subject: OFF: CFJ 1252 Judged FALSE To: agora-official@gecko.serc.rmit.edu.au (agora-off) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 23:27:54 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-agora-official@gecko.serc.rmit.edu.au Precedence: bulk Reply-To: agora-discussion@gecko.serc.rmit.edu.au X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: t657fk.10s.30ahi43 ============================== CFJ 1252 ============================== Peekee has a Will. ======================================================================== Called by: Peekee Judge: Chuck Judgement: FALSE Judge selection: Eligible: Chuck, Crito, David, Elysion, Kelly, lee, Murphy, pTang, Steve Not eligible: Caller: Peekee Barred: - Had eir turn: Blob, t, Peekee, Wes Already served: - Defaulted: - Previously Defaulted: Harlequin, Sherlock By request: harvel, Michael, Palnatoke, Taral On Hold: Palnatoke Zombie: Anthony, Harlequin, Novalis, Schneidster ======================================================================== History: Called by Peekee: ?? Assigned to Chuck: 06 Jan 2001 19:18:50 -0800 Judged FALSE by Chuck: 13 Jan 2001 17:57:08 -0600 Judgement Distributed: As of this message ======================================================================== Caller's Arguments: I want to know if these old Wills still count, despite the fact that the report I just posted supposes they don't. ======================================================================== Caller's Evidence: I hereby submit the following Application to create a Will. Signed Peekee. ---- Peekee's Will. Peekee's sole Heir will be the Agoran Carnival. ---- Alan "Peekee" Riddell Email: UK Telephone: 0131 667 6000, Extension 36007 ======================================================================== Judge's Arguments: All mention of Wills was removed by the Ruleset upon the adoption of Proposal 4018, on June 21 2000. Thus, all Wills which had existed at that point ceased to exist upon the adoption of Proposal 4018. Wills were added to the Ruleset upon the adoption of Proposal 4082, on October 30 2000, but there was no provision in the Rules for reinstating any previous Wills. Thus, while it was possible to create Wills once Proposal 4082 was adopted, no Wills sprang into being immediately upon the adoption of Proposal 4082. Furthermore, I can find no evidence that Peekee created a Will between the adoption of Proposal 4082, and the time this CFJ was made on November 7, 2000. Thus, Peekee had no Will when this CFJ was made. [Note: All dates listed in this argument and in the evidence below are those given by the eScribe archives.] ======================================================================== Judge's Evidence: Short Logical Ruleset, June 18 2000 http://www.escribe.com/games/agora-official/m186.html Assessor's Report for Proposals 4017-4019, June 21 2000 http://www.escribe.com/games/agora-official/m196.html Short Logical Ruleset, June 23 2000 http://www.escribe.com/games/agora-official/m208.html [I will not list every SLR published in this interim, but a search of the eScribe archives confirms that Wills are not mentioned in any of them.] Short Logical Ruleset, October 26 2000 http://www.escribe.com/games/agora-official/m690.html Assessor's Report for Proposals 4079-4083, October 30 2000 http://www.escribe.com/games/agora-official/m698.html Short Logical Ruleset, November 2 2000 http://www.escribe.com/games/agora-official/m717.html Peekee's Call for Judgement, November 7 2000 (CotC, please note for your records) http://www.escribe.com/games/agora-business/m1818.html ========================================================================