From - Wed Oct 11 15:28:07 2000 Return-Path: Received: from gecko.serc.rmit.edu.au ([131.170.42.16]) by fb04.eng00.mindspring.net (Mindspring Mail Service) with ESMTP id su6iq5.2bqr.37kbi5a for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:00:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by gecko.serc.rmit.edu.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA15416 for agora-official-list; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:02:17 GMT Received: from fw.serc.rmit.edu.au (fw-in.serc.rmit.edu.au [131.170.42.1]) by gecko.serc.rmit.edu.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA15413 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:02:15 GMT Received: (from mail@localhost) by fw.serc.rmit.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.1) id EAA06881 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 04:02:25 +1100 (EST) Received: from fido.kiva.net(206.97.64.41) by fw.serc.rmit.edu.au via smap (V2.1) id xma006879; Wed, 11 Oct 00 04:02:05 +1100 Received: (qmail 16009 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2000 16:58:02 -0000 Received: from dial-149.bton.kiva.net (HELO klm02) (208.143.10.149) by fido.kiva.net with SMTP; 10 Oct 2000 16:58:02 -0000 From: "Kelly Martin" To: "Agora Official" Subject: OFF: CFJ 1249 Judged TRUE Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 11:57:28 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-agora-official@gecko.serc.rmit.edu.au Precedence: bulk Reply-To: agora-discussion@gecko.serc.rmit.edu.au X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: su6iq5.2bqr.37kbi5a In this message: Judged TRUE by Peekee. The Bank incurs a debt of 35 Stems to Peekee. ============================== CFJ 1249 ============================== The paragraph of Rule 1664 which reads 'The Registar shall select a random integer from 1 to the number of Players (plus 1 if Miscreant is held) at the time of the Call for Revolt. If this number is less than or equal to the number of Rebellious Players (plus 1 if Miscreant is held by a Rebellious Player), then the Revolt succeeds; otherwise it fails.' should be interpreted such that, while the total number of Players is determined as of the time of the Call for Revolt, the number of Rebellious Players is determined as of the time the Registrar selects a random integer as described. ======================================================================== Called by: Chuck Judge: Peekee Judgement: TRUE Judge selection: Eligible: Andre, Blob, Crito, Kelly, Murphy, Oerjan, pTang, Steve Not eligible: Caller: Chuck Barred: t Had eir turn: t Already served: Defaulted: By request: Elysion, harvel, Michael, Palnatoke, Taral, Wes On Hold: Zombie: Anthony, Harlequin, Novalis, Schneidster ======================================================================== History: Called by Chuck: 2 Oct 2000 11:10:21 -0500 Assigned to Peekee: 6 Oct 2000 09:56:34 -0500 Judged TRUE by Peekee: 9 Oct 2000 14:28:34 BST Judgement entered: this message ======================================================================== Caller's Arguments, Evidence, and Other Information: Rule 1664/13 (Power=2) Rebellion Any Player is either Abiding or Rebellious. A new Player is always Abiding when e becomes a player. A Player can switch from Abiding to Rebellious or from Rebellious to Abiding if e has not does so during the current month by sending a message to the Public Forum saying e does change so. The Registrar shall include in the Registrar's Report a list of all Players that are Rebellious. A Player may Call for a Revolt at any time, by sending to the Public Forum saying e does so. A Call for Revolt is only effective if the following conditions are met: i) The player posting the Call is Rebellious, ii) No other effective Call for Revolt has been made that week, iii) A successful Revolt has not occured for a month or more. As soon as possible after an effective Call for Revolt has been posted, the Registrar must determine whether the Revolt succeeds, as outlined below, and post the result to the Public Forum. The Registar shall select a random integer from 1 to the number of Players (plus 1 if Miscreant is held) at the time of the Call for Revolt. If this number is less than or equal to the number of Rebellious Players (plus 1 if Miscreant is held by a Rebellious Player), then the Revolt succeeds; otherwise it fails. If a Revolt succeeds, then the following events occur (in order): - The Registrar shall expunge all Blots of each Rebellious Player. - The Registrar shall pay out 40 Stems to each Rebellious Player. - All positions in the Oligarchy become vacant. - All Abiding Players that hold one or more Offices in the normal fashion cease to hold those in a normal fashion and hold them temporarily instead. - All Rebellious Players become Abiding again - The Herald is empowered and required to levy a tax of 75% on indulgences. The holder of the Patent Title "Robespierre" is exempt from this tax, even if other rules don't allow tax exemptions. - A Speaker Transition occurs If a Revolt does not succeed, then: - All Rebellious Players gain 2 Blots. - The Player who Called for Revolt gains 2 (additional) Blots The Registrar shall notify the Herald of all Blots that have been gained or expunged as a result of this Rule. History: Created by Proposal 2717, Oct 23 1996 Amended(1) by Proposal 2797 (Andre), Jan. 30 1997, substantial Amended(2) by Proposal 3475 (Murphy), May 11 1997, substantial Amended(3) by Proposal 3685 (Steve), Feb. 12 1998, substantial Amended(4) by Proposal 3703 (Steve), Mar. 9 1998 Amended(5) by Proposal 3713 (Blob), Mar. 19 1998 Amended(6) by Proposal 3740 (Repeal-O-Matic), May 8 1998 Amended(7) by Proposal 3794 (Kolja A.), Oct. 19 1998 Amended(8) by Proposal 3897 (harvel), Aug. 27 1999 Amended(9) by Proposal 3901 (Schneidster), Sep. 6 1999 Amended(10) by Proposal 3916 (harvel), Sep. 27 1999 Amended(11) by Proposal 3936 (Elysion), Oct. 31 1999 Amended(12) by Proposal 3951 (Elysion), Dec. 8 1999 Power changed from 1 to 2 by Proposal 3980 (Steve), Mar. 1 2000 Amended(13) by Proposal 3980 (Steve), Mar. 1 2000 ======================================================================== Peekee's Judgement: I Judge this CFJ TRUE. Although the second sentence does not state when the number of Rebellious Players is to be calculated, it refers to the number selected by the Registrar at the time of the Call for Revolt. I think that as no time is given the Registrar should compare the selected number to the number of Rebellious Players at the time e selects the number, and as such the number of Rebellious Players should be calculated at the time of such a comparison the CFJ is TRUE. Peekee ========================================================================