From - Mon Aug 28 15:54:33 2000 Return-Path: Received: from gecko.serc.rmit.edu.au ([131.170.42.16]) by runyon.mail.mindspring.net (Mindspring Mail Service) with ESMTP id sqisf3.fgu.37kbi7f for ; Sun, 27 Aug 2000 15:54:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by gecko.serc.rmit.edu.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA18924 for agora-official-list; Sun, 27 Aug 2000 19:35:10 GMT Received: from fw.serc.rmit.edu.au (fw-in.serc.rmit.edu.au [131.170.42.1]) by gecko.serc.rmit.edu.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA18921 for ; Sun, 27 Aug 2000 19:35:08 GMT Received: (from mail@localhost) by fw.serc.rmit.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.1) id GAA23067 for ; Mon, 28 Aug 2000 06:39:33 +1100 (EST) Received: from 132.196.6.64.reflexcom.com(64.6.196.132) by fw.serc.rmit.edu.au via smap (V2.1) id xma023065; Mon, 28 Aug 00 06:39:24 +1100 Received: (from wesc@localhost) by fozzie.antitribu.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA35100 for agora-official@gecko.serc.rmit.edu.au; Sun, 27 Aug 2000 13:06:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wesc) From: Wes Contreras Message-Id: <200008272006.NAA35100@fozzie.antitribu.com> Subject: OFF: CFJ 1244 Judged FALSE To: agora-official@gecko.serc.rmit.edu.au (agora-off) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 13:06:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-agora-official@gecko.serc.rmit.edu.au Precedence: bulk Reply-To: agora-discussion@gecko.serc.rmit.edu.au X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: sqisf3.fgu.37kbi7f ============================== CFJ 1244 ============================== A given Rule's title is a substantive property of that Rule, and so may be changed as a Rule Change. ======================================================================== Called by: Peekee Judge: Blob Judgement: FALSE Judge selection: Eligible: Andre, Blob, Chuck, Elysion, Kelly, lee, Murphy, Oerjan, Steve, t, Taral, Wes Not eligible: Caller: Peekee Barred: - Had eir turn: - Already served: - Defaulted: - Previously Defaulted: Harlequin, Sherlock By request: Crito, harvel, Michael, Palnatoke On Hold: Palnatoke (?) Zombie: Anthony, Harlequin, Novalis, Schneidster ======================================================================== History: Called by Peekee: 23 Aug 2000 15:05:41 BST Assigned to Blob: 24 Aug 2000 06:55:09 -0700 ======================================================================== Caller's Arguments: ======================================================================== Caller's Evidence: Rule 105/1 (Power=3) What Is a Rule Change? A Rule Change is any of the following: * The enactment of a new Rule; * The repeal of an existing Rule; * The amendment of the text of an existing Rule; or * Any change to a substantive property of a Rule other than its text. A "substantive property of a Rule" is any property of that Rule (other than its text) which determines in part or in full the ability of that Rule to govern by itself or in conjunction with other Rules. This would seem to indicate the a Rule's title is a substansive Property, as looking at a single Rule the Ruleset may refer to it's title. Further more if there was any doubt, this takes presedence over , Rule 1485/8 (Power=1) Titles for Rules Each Rule has a Title, which is a single line of text containing not more than 60 characters. The Title must be listed by the Rulekeepor along with the Rule. However, the Title is not part of the Rule itself and has no effect on the meaning or application of the Rule, being merely a convenience for the Players. A Rule Change that Creates a new Rule may specify a Title for the new Rule. If it does not, the Rulekeepor shall choose the new Rule's Title. The Rulekeepor is authorized to change the Title of a Rule Without Objection. ======================================================================== Judge's Arguments: It is not, in general, true that the title of a rule "determines in part or in full the ability of that Rule to govern by itself or in conjunction with other Rules" (Rule 105, in evidence). Rule 1485 (in evidence) states quite the opposite, that "the Title ... has no effect on the meaning or application of the Rule". Nor are theer any specific Rules that this Judge is aware of that override this provision. Therefore I rule that the title of a Rule is not, in general or in any particular existing case, a substantive property of the Rule. Therefore the statement under consideration is ruled FALSE. ======================================================================== Judge's Evidence: ========================================================================