From magik-@aracnet.com Mon Dec 20 22:33:19 1999 Return-Path: owner-agora-officia-@gecko.serc.rmit.edu.au Delivered-To: listsaver-of-agora-official@findmail.com Received: (qmail 13456 invoked from network); 21 Dec 1999 06:37:02 -0000 Received: from gecko.serc.rmit.edu.au (131.170.42.16) by qh.egroups.com with SMTP; 21 Dec 1999 06:37:02 -0000 Received: (from majordom-@localhost) by gecko.serc.rmit.edu.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA02403 for agora-official-list; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 06:35:41 GMT Received: from fw.serc.rmit.edu.au (fw-in.serc.rmit.edu.au [131.170.42.1]) by gecko.serc.rmit.edu.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA02380 for agora-officia-@gecko.serc.rmit.edu.au; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 06:35:33 GMT From: magik-@aracnet.com Received: (from Unknown UID 6@localhost) by fw.serc.rmit.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.1) id RAA29553 for agora-officia-@gecko.serc.rmit.edu.au; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 17:47:23 +1100 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: fw.serc.rmit.edu.au: Unknown UID 6 set sender to magik-@aracnet.com using -f Received: from mail4.aracnet.com(205.159.88.46) by fw.serc.rmit.edu.au via smap (V2.1) id xma029444; Tue, 21 Dec 99 17:43:49 +1100 Received: from shell1.aracnet.com (IDENT:roo-@shell1.aracnet.com [216.99.193.21]) by mail4.aracnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA24288 for agora-officia-@gecko.serc.rmit.edu.au.; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 22:32:30 -0800 Received: by shell1.aracnet.com (8.9.3) id WAA04553; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 22:32:27 -0800 Message-Id: 199912210632.waa0455-@shell1.aracnet.com Subject: OFF: CFJ 1188 Judged TRUE To: agora-officia-@gecko.serc.rmit.edu.au (agora-off) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 22:32:27 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-agora-officia-@gecko.serc.rmit.edu.au Precedence: bulk Reply-To: agora-discussio-@gecko.serc.rmit.edu.au ====================================================================== CFJ 1188 Kolja A. should not have been assigned to the Board of Appeals for CFJ 1183. ====================================================================== Called by: Murphy Judge: harvel Judgement: TRUE Judge selection: Eligible: harvel, Kolja, Lee, Michael, Palnatoke, Peekee, Steve, t, Wes Not eligible: Caller: Murphy Barred: - Had their turn: Blob, Chuck, Crito, harvel Already served: - Defaulted: - By request: - On Hold: elJefe ====================================================================== History: Called by Murphy: 12 Dec 1999 01:39:27 -0800 Assigned to harvel: 12 Dec 1999 12:07:02 -0800 Judged TRUE by harvel: 16 Dec 1999 23:18:03 EST Judgement Distributed: As of this message ===================================================================== Caller's Arguments: This is a direct consequence of Rule 911, clause iv). ====================================================================== Evidence attached by the Caller: Rule 911/8 (Power=1) The Board of Appeals When an appeal is initiated, a Board of Appeals shall be selected in order to reach a decision about the consideration mandated by the appeal. A Board of Appeals consists of three distinct Players, called Justices. The Clerk of the Courts selects the Justices for each Board, as follows, until three eligible Justices have been selected; The Speaker is selected, if eligible; The Justiciar is selected, if eligible; The CotC is selected, if eligible; Any remaining positions are then filled by random selection, by the CotC, from all remaining eligible Players. A Player is ineligible for selection if any of the following is true: i) E has already been selected to serve on that Board. ii) E has been dismissed as Justice from that Board. iii) E has been Judge in the matter the Board is to consider. iv) E was not eligible to Judge the CFJ that resulted in the matter under consideration when it was called, and this restriction does not prevent three eligible Players from being selected by the CotC for the Board. v) E is on Hold, and this restriction does not prevent three eligible Players from being selected by the CotC for the Board. A Justice is permitted to appoint another eligible Player to replace em as Justice on a given Board, provided the Player consents. A Justice does this by notifying the Clerk of the Courts of the appointment. ====================================================================== Judge's Arguments: Caller claims that the Statement is a direct consequence of Rule 911, clause iv, which states that Players ineligible to Judge a CFJ are ineligible to serve on a Board of Appeals for that CFJ unless that condition would prevent there being three eligible Players. Wes was the only Player eligible to Judge CFJ 1183. Kolja was doubly ineligible, for e had requested that e not be selected as Judge. It might seem that only Wes could be assigned to the Board of Appeals (thus causing iv to kick in and allow any Players, even Kolja to be possibly selected); however, according to Rule 1871, the Players made ineligible to Judge a CFJ by having had their turn were not ineligible to serve on the Board of Appeals for that CFJ. There were at least three Players eligible to serve on the Board of Appeals (in particular, elJefe, Kolja, Peekee, Steve, and Wes were not eligible) without reinstating eligibility by iv. So Kolja was not eligible to serve on the Board of Appeals for CFJ 1183, and should not have been assigned as a Justice on that CFJ. ======================================================================