====================================================================== CFJ 1150 One, or both, of the following assertions are true, to wit, firstly, that Elysion is guilty of Tardiness in not reporting to Steve regarding the ex-Player Morendil's Denaria holdings within one week of Steve being assigned as Trustee for Morendil, or secondly, that Steve is guilty of Tardiness in not posting to the Public Forum a Probate Plan for Morendil within one week of having received from all extant Recordkeepors reports regarding Morendil's holdings in the Currencies for which they were respectively Recordkeepors, the transmission of said reports being mandated by Steve's assignment as Trustee for Morendil. ====================================================================== Called by: Morendil Judge: Michael Judgement: TRUE Justices: Speaker Chuck, Justiciar Kolja, CotC Wes Decision: OVERTURN to FALSE Judge selection: Eligible: Annabel, Michael, Murphy, Palnatoke, Peekee, Vlad, Wes Not eligible: Caller: Morendil Barred: - Had their turn: Beefurabi, Blob, Chuck, Crito, ElJefe, Elysion, harvel, Kolja Already served: - Defaulted: - By request: - On Hold: Lee, Oerjan, Steve ====================================================================== History: Called by Morendil: 01 Aug 1999 19:19:53 +0200 Assigned to Michael: 03 Aug 1999 16:49:24 GMT Judged TRUE by Michael: 09 Aug 1999 10:50:24 +0100 Judgement distributed: 10 Aug 1999 07:07:31 -0700 Appealed by Elysion: 09 Aug 1999 10:33:19 -0400 Appealed by Michael: 09 Aug 1999 15:46:27 +0100 Appealed by Crito: 09 Aug 1999 12:20:06 -0400 Justices assigned: 10 Aug 1999 08:46:19 -0700 Decision to OVERTURN by Kolja: 16 Aug 1999 21:17:27 +0200 Decision to OVERTURN by Wes: 16 Aug 1999 13:55:12 -0700 Decision to OVERTURN by Mighty Chuck: 16 Aug 1999 19:10:07 -0500 Decision Published: As of this message ===================================================================== Caller's Arguments: As evidence, I'll note that all other Recordkeepors did send reports to Steve concerning my holdings in various Currencies; the timestamps of relevant posts are appended, as well as that of Steve's Trustee assignment. Elysion did post a note on Denaria holdings to the PF, but unfortunately that was one minute before Steve's getting the Trustee assignment. (Should that somehow 'count towards' Steve receiving all Currency reports, then that makes Steve the guilty party rather than Elyision, which is why the above CFJ attempts to cover all bases.) ====================================================================== Evidence attached by the Caller: From: "Joshua Boehme" < Subject: BUS: Denaria Holdings Date sent: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 10:46:28 -0400 From: "Ed Murphy" < Subject: OFF: Notary's Report Date sent: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 07:47:11 -0700 Subject: OFF: Promotor's report of P-Note holdings and From: Michael Norrish < Date sent: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:30:02 +0100 From: "Joshua Boehme" < Subject: OFF: Herald's Report Date sent: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 11:42:51 -0400 Subject: OFF: Amoeba Recordkeeepor's Report Date sent: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 23:37:57 -0500 (CDT) From: "Charles E. Carroll" < Date sent: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 11:57:33 -0400 From: David Albertz < Subject: OFF: Accountor's Report as of 19 July, 1999 ====================================================================== Evidence attached by Justices: >From a mail sent by Elysion to the members of the appeals court, with Message-ID: <19990810202834.19354.qmail@hotmail.com> and dated Tue, 10 Aug 1999 16:20:38 -0400: ====================================================================== Judge's Arguments: Steve was appointed Trustee of Morendil's estate on 17 July (in a message with ID <000301bed063$404ed340$33c4edd0@friend-computer>). This action was legal (as has been reasoned in the case of CFJ 1154), so the requirements of the second paragraph of Rule 1738 come into play. These require the Recordkeepor of each official Currency (among which Denaria is one) to produce, as soon as possible, a report detailing the entity in Probate's holdings, debts etc in that Currency. Elysion is the recordkeepor for Denaria and did not produce a report of Denaria holdings for anyone within a week of 17 July. Therefore he is guilty of the Infraction of Tardiness. Therefore the first disjunct of the statement is true. (Equally, it is clear that the second disjunct is false.) Therefore, the statement as a whole is true. ====================================================================== Justice Kolja's Arguments: The first half of the statement for judgement has been shown to be false by evidence presented in the public forum shortly after the original judgement (based on the truth og this first half) was entered by judge Michael (who consequently joined in the appeal of eir own judgement). The second half has been shown to be false in the arguments presented by Elysion and attached as evidence. Therefore, the statement is false, and even the original judge now agrees with this. To summarize: Steve went On Hold before e became Morendil's Trustee. Rule 1584/0 requires a rule to explicitly state that an On Hold player is required to do something for an On Hold player to be required to do it. Rule 1584/0 takes precedence over rule 1023/10 (rule 1023/10 also defers to 1584/0, as 1584 describes the lack of On Hold responsibilities). CFJ 1154 established that On Hold players can be assigned as Trustees. Thus, Steve is the Trustee of Morendil's estate, but cannot be required to do anything while On Hold, and thus cannot be guilty of not doing something. ====================================================================== Justice Wes' Arguments: We think that the reasons to overturn this Judgement have been covered amply well, both by discussion and by Kolja's summary. The simple fact that Elysion reported Denaria holdings within the time given and that Steve was On Hold, and thus unable to be Guilty of Tardiness makes a result of TRUE here impossible. Thus we also act to OVERTURN the Judgement, replacing it with a Judgement of FALSE. ====================================================================== Mighty Justice Chuck's Arguments: Mighty I too move to overturn the Judgement of CFJ 1150 and reverse it to FALSE. Mighty I have nothing to add to Wes' and Kolja's arguments. ======================================================================