[I am choosing to regard Morendil's previous "assignment" of CFJ1137 to be invalid, since it was not at all clear who he was assigning it to. So the CFJ is officially assigned to Crito as of this message - CotC pro-tem Blob] ====================================================================== CFJ 1137 If a CFJ alleging that a Player has committed a Crime is initially Judged FALSE, and that decision is later reversed by a Board of Appeals, it is the duty of the original Judge to issue the Sentencing Orders associated with conviction of that Crime. ====================================================================== Called by: Chuck Judge: Crito Judgement: Judge selection: Eligible: Crito, Beefurabi, Wes Not eligible: Caller: Chuck Barred: Steve Had their turn: Oerjan, Blob, Murphy, Peekee, Vlad, Kolja A., elJefe, Michael, Morendil, Elysion Already served: - Defaulted: - By request: harvel On Hold: - ====================================================================== History: Called by Chuck: Tue, 25 May 1999 19:33:11 -0500 Assigned to Crito: as of this message ===================================================================== Caller's Arguments: ====================================================================== Evidence attached by the Caller: ====================================================================== [ Elysion: This CFJ was judged, but the judgement was never officially published AFAIK. The judgement message is attached. ] From David Albertz dalbert-@rmv.state.ma.us Mon Jun 14 10:07:23 1999 Return-Path: owner-agora-busines-@gecko.serc.rmit.edu.au Delivered-To: listsaver-of-agora-busines-@findmail.com Received: (qmail 98 invoked by uid 7770); 14 Jun 1999 17:07:21 -0000 Received: from gecko.serc.rmit.edu.au (131.170.42.16) by vault.egroups.com with SMTP; 14 Jun 1999 17:07:21 -0000 Received: (from majordom-@localhost) by gecko.serc.rmit.edu.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA02620 for agora-business-list; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 15:35:47 GMT Received: from fw.serc.rmit.edu.au (fw-in.serc.rmit.edu.au [131.170.42.1]) by gecko.serc.rmit.edu.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02617 for agora-busines-@gecko.serc.rmit.edu.au; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 15:35:45 GMT Received: (from mai-@localhost) by fw.serc.rmit.edu.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) id BAA15005 for agora-busines-@gecko.serc.rmit.edu.au; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 01:51:44 +1000 (EST) Received: from rmvsmtp.rmv.state.ma.us(206.32.173.19) by fw.serc.rmit.edu.au via smap (V2.1) id xma015003; Tue, 15 Jun 99 01:51:32 +1000 Received: from RMVMail-Message_Server by rmv.state.ma.us with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:44:16 -0400 Message-Id: s764eb10.05-@rmv.state.ma.us X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:43:48 -0400 From: David Albertz dalbert-@rmv.state.ma.us To: agora-busines-@gecko.serc.rmit.edu.au Subject: BUS: OFF: CFJ 1137: Assigned to Crito Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-agora-busines-@gecko.serc.rmit.edu.au Precedence: bulk Reply-To: agora-discussio-@gecko.serc.rmit.edu.au > CFJ 1137 > If a CFJ alleging that a Player has committed a Crime is initially > Judged FALSE, and that decision is later reversed by a Board of > Appeals, it is the duty of the original Judge to issue the > Sentencing Orders associated with conviction of that Crime. I hereby submit a judgement of TRUE. I think it was Michael who proposed the following argument, and I have found nothing to refute it. Rule 1693 states: i) Reversal of the Judgement. In this case, the CFJ shall be treated as if it were Judged normally, with the Judgement being that which a majority of the Justices agree on. Which means that the original Judge is deemed to have rendered a judicial finding opposite to that of eir original finding. Rule 1504 states: The imposition of penalties for the commission of a Crime shall be by Sentencing Order(s). Upon a judicial finding that an entity has committed a Crime, the Judge so finding shall execute Sentencing Orders sufficient to implement the penalty required by the Rules for that Crime. Since R1693 deems the Judge to have entered a 'guilty' finding, in the case of our hypothetical, R1504 would then impose an obligation on that Judge to issue the correct Sentencing Order. Therefore a judgement of TRUE is supported. --Crito