========================================================================== CFJ 1118 General Chaos' message to agora-business, dated Thu Feb 4 04:47:07 1999, with message-id < 199902041242.HAA2542-@poverty.bloomington.in.us >, initiated a Referendum to Impeach Chancellor Andre. ========================================================================== Called by: Steve Judge: Vlad Judgement: TRUE Judge selection: Eligible: Chuck, Crito, elJefe, Kolja. A, Michael, Morendil, Vlad Not eligible: Caller: Steve Barred: Andre, General Chaos Had their turn: Ørjan, Macross, Blob, General Chaos, Murphy, Peekee Already served: - Defaulted: - By request: - On Hold: Ørjan, lee ========================================================================== History: Called by Steve: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 20:21:17 +1100 Assigned to Vlad: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 21:17:05 +1100 Judged TRUE by Vlad: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 11:20:09 -0600 Judgement published: as of this message ========================================================================== Caller's Arguments: As is usual, I begin with the facts. The full text of the General's message, which was sent to the Public Forum, is as follows. Replying to a message from Andre, he wrote (text delimited by triple hyphens): --- "Andre" == Andre Engels < engel-@win.tue.nl > writes: Andre> I hereby again set the BOS to zero Voting Tokens. Anybody who thinks I'm going to work for free while the Duty to Vote exist is daft. I hereby call for the Impeachment of Chancellor Andre. --- Now, the Rules. Rule 1486 (Procedure to Impeach an Officer) states in part that: Any Active Player is permitted to call a Referendum to Impeach an Officer at any time, by requesting such in the Public Forum... The Referendum must list both the Office and the current Electee to that Office by name. General Chaos insists that because he did not use the word 'Referendum' in his message, for example by saying "I hereby call for a Referendum to Impeach Chancellor Andre", that his message did not succeed in initiating a Referendum to Impeach Chancellor Andre. I disagree. I hold the contrary view that in the context (i.e., the existence of R1486), specific use of the word 'Referendum' was not necessary to initiate a Referendum to Impeach, and that a reasonable person would interpret his message as a call for a Referendum to Impeach Chancellor Andre. To insist that the use of the word "Referendum" is necessary to initiate a Referendum is to insist on an absolutely strict adherence to rigidly defined forms of words that is not in the best interests of the game. If allowed to stand, this ultra-finicky legalism will set a dangerous precedent. It might, to give just one example, allow the Assessor to discount a message of the form "6666: FOR" (following the distribution of Proposal 6666) as a vote for Proposal 6666, on the grounds that neither the words 'vote' nor 'Proposal' appear in the message. I ask the Judge to reject such insults to commonsense and deliver a Judgement of TRUE. ========================================================================== Judge's Arguments: First, I note that this issue appears not be dealt with in the text of any of the relevant Rules, so I am free to employ the other standards listed in 217. This is a difficult issue. Certainly, some Players, myself included, thought that General Chaos was calling for a Referendum. Later, G. Chaos denied that he had done so. I'll note that the case isn't as clear-cut as Steve's voting example, since there is really only one possible meaning of "6666:FOR", but G. Chaos' message has, at least potentially, the purpose of expressing a wish rather than initiating an official proceeding. Steve's cautions about a too-literal reading of the rules are cogent, but there is also the danger of being too lax. If I happen to express my disapproval of a Proposal up for vote in the Public Forum does that count as a vote against? If "I hereby call for the Impeachment of Officer X" starts a referendum, does "Let's Impeach X" or even "Down with X!" do so? In such cases, I think a later statement of purpose, combined with the earlier declaration, may combine to form such a legal declaration. However, G. Chaos has made no such clarification, despite my request to. His later denial that he started such a referendum may be considered a weak clarification, but there is always the suspicion he changed his mind, for whatever reasons, after the fact, or even that he simply wishes to see the results a CFJ would bring. In the absence of such a positive clarification by the defendant, there is one piece of evidence that I feel tips the balance towards TRUE. G, Chaos posted his message to the Public Forum, rather than the default discussion list. This implies an active decision on his part, and is prima facie evidence that he did intend to initiate a referendum. Therefore I Judge TRUE. I note again that intent IS relevant here. Agora allows loose language in taking actions, rightfully so, but that means the nature of a message can sometimes be ambiguous. Under such circumstances, I think the Player should be allowed to clarify the ambiguity, if he does so in a timely fashion, otherwise, no legal decision can be made concerning their intent, and so, by default, the action does not occur. In this case the evidence outlined above does sufficiently clarify the Player's intent. However, this should not be construed as setting a precedent, although I think the principle that any post sent to the PF is intended to have legal effect, and should be construed that way if there is doubt, is in general a good one. Vlad ==========================================================================