===================================================================== CFJ 1082 "Chuck incorrectly stated that Andre, Blob, Crito, ElJefe, General Chaos, Harlequin, Jester, Kolja A., Michael, Morendil, Murphy, Oerjan, Sherlock, Steve, Swann, & Time Agent were guilty of the Infraction of Delayed COE Response." ====================================================================== Judge: General Chaos Judgement: TRUE Eligible: Blob, Crito, elJefe, General Chaos, Harlequin, Jester, Michael, Morendil, Murphy, Oerjan, Sherlock, Steve, Swann, Time Agent Ineligible: Caller: Kolja A. Barred: Chuck On request: On hold: ====================================================================== History: Called by Kolja A., 22 Jan 1998 22:15:31 +1100 Assigned to General Chaos, 23 Jan 1998 16:11:55 +0000 Judged TRUE, 29 Jan 1998 08:42:25 -0500 ====================================================================== Caller's Arguments: I quote Rule 1431/10 (Power=1) Claims of Error A Response must be provided by the Player who is required by the Rules to publish the information subject to a Claim within one week of the Claim being made, unless any of the following holds: * a previous Claim was made concerning the same error * the relevant message has been posted more than 21 days before * another message by the same Player has corrected the error A Player who fails to post a Response within the alloted time commits the Infraction of Delayed COE Response, carrying a penalty of 1 Blot, to be reported by the Player who posted the Claim. A Player who incorrectly issues a denial of a Claim commits the Crime of Wrongful COE Denial, a Class 1 Crime, unless e then admits the Claim within 72 hours after the incorrect denial. None of us were "the Player who is required by the Rules to publish the information subject to a Claim", as I find no Rule that _requires_ anyone to publish the information subject to this Claim, therefore the Rule states no allotted time for a Response from any of us. We have therefore not yet failed to respond within the (unspecified) allotted time. :oP ====================================================================== Evidence provided by caller: Charles E. Carroll wrote: > Charles E. Carroll wrote: > > > >>Message-Id: 3.0.1.16.19980104221752.2ea7956-@cyber1.servtech.com > >>Date: Sun, 04 Jan 1998 22:17:52 > >>To: agora-busines-@gecko.serc.rmit.edu.au > >>From: Chaos Harlequin harlequi-@tmbg.org > >>Subject: BUS: Report of Win > > > >[headers excerpted] > >> > >>In accordance with Rule 1638, I hereby report that Harlequin has Won the > >>Game of Agora. This Win occured on December 23, at 08:21:01 -0500. This Win > >>was caused by Rule 1729, since this Player proposed an Insane proposal > >>which received no votes FOR. > > > >I hereby claim that the above is in error, in that Harlequin did not > >win on or around the time listed. > > In regard to the above COE: > > Andre is guilty of the Infraction of Delayed COE Response, and is > ordered to pay 1 Indulgence to the Bank. > > Blob is guilty of the Infraction of Delayed COE Response, and is > ordered to pay 1 Indulgence to the Bank. > > Crito is guilty of the Infraction of Delayed COE Response, and is > ordered to pay 1 Indulgence to the Bank. > > elJefe is guilty of the Infraction of Delayed COE Response, and is > ordered to pay 1 Indulgence to the Bank. > > General Chaos is guilty of the Infraction of Delayed COE Response, and is > ordered to pay 1 Indulgence to the Bank. > > Harlequin is guilty of the Infraction of Delayed COE Response, and is > ordered to pay 1 Indulgence to the Bank. > > Jester is guilty of the Infraction of Delayed COE Response, and is > ordered to pay 1 Indulgence to the Bank. > > Kolja A. is guilty of the Infraction of Delayed COE Response, and is > ordered to pay 1 Indulgence to the Bank. > > Michael is guilty of the Infraction of Delayed COE Response, and is > ordered to pay 1 Indulgence to the Bank. > > Morendil is guilty of the Infraction of Delayed COE Response, and is > ordered to pay 1 Indulgence to the Bank. > > Murphy is guilty of the Infraction of Delayed COE Response, and is > ordered to pay 1 Indulgence to the Bank. > > Oerjan is guilty of the Infraction of Delayed COE Response, and is > ordered to pay 1 Indulgence to the Bank. > > Sherlock is guilty of the Infraction of Delayed COE Response, and is > ordered to pay 1 Indulgence to the Bank. > > Steve is guilty of the Infraction of Delayed COE Response, and is > ordered to pay 1 Indulgence to the Bank. > > Swann is guilty of the Infraction of Delayed COE Response, and is > ordered to pay 1 Indulgence to the Bank. > > Time Agent is guilty of the Infraction of Delayed COE Response, and is > ordered to pay 1 Indulgence to the Bank. > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > ProtoProposal Chuck112.1 > Delayed COE Reposnse Penalty only for Players Required to Respond > > I request AI=1 for this Proposal. > > Rule 1431 shall be amended by changing the portion which currently > reads, "A Player who fails to post a Response within the alloted time" > to read, "A Player who is required to post a Response and fails > to do so within the alloted time". > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > Chuck ====================================================================== Judge's Arguments: CFJ 1082 asks the question whether Chuck's report of multiple Infractions of Delayed COE Response regarding his COE on the report of Harlequin's Win (reported by Harlequin) was in error. This Court finds that the all such reports were erroneous. There are several related issues, which will be taken up below. First, whether an error existed: This Court finds that there was in fact an error, adopting without discussion the ruling of our sister Court in CFJ 1081. Second, whether an admission of the error pursuant to the COE was required as a consequence of the error: This Court finds that no Player was obliged to respond to Chuck's COE because no Player is obliged by the Rules to post announcement of Player Wins by the Insanity Rule, and thus there was no "Player who is required by the Rules to publish the information subject to a Claim" (Rule 1431/10). Third, whether Rule 1431's fourth paragraph establishes an Infraction for any Player who fails to respond to a Claim, irregardless of whether e is required to do so by Rule 1431's third paragraph: This Court finds that, while the position apparently adopted by Chuck in attempting to impose the Infractions is not directly excluded by the language of Rule 1431, it seems reasonably clear that the referent of "A Player who fails to post a Response within the alloted time" should be and is restricted to those Players who are actually obliged to do so, under Rule 1431's third paragraph. Therefore, it is this Court's opinion that Rule 1431's fourth paragraph establishes no liability for Players other than those named by Rule 1431's third paragraph. Thus, while the Claim of Error was correct, and there was an error, the Rules do not require any Player to admit the error, and do not allow the imposition of an Infraction upon any Player for failing to do so. The alleged Infractions did not occur, and Chuck's report of them was erroneous. This Court is not asked to consider the question of whether Chuck's report of these alleged Infractions, and the Payment Orders e alleged to execute at the same time time, were in fact valid, and thus will not take up that question. Judgement of TRUE is entered. It is so ordered. ======================================================================